Seo Cleaning the index by search engines – a few cases

Recently I had a few questions, type 

“I forgot to extend the domain, I did it after X days, it is not me on the previous positions, which now ..” 

In October, one of my clients also some miracle I forget to extend the domain. Of course, this fact informed him at the time when I disappeared for a phrase that the items were positioned in this domain. 
The domain should be paid for up to 4 October. On October 12, noticed no position to determine the main page. When you check what’s going on, it appeared that it was delete from index home page of this site. All were in sub-index, unfortunately, in this case, positioning can take place on the homepage because I do not know if they look sub-items. 
15 October, which is after my hide prompted by 3 days why this has not been paid, and went to transfer the domain has been re-launched the morning of 16.10. 
Home appeared in Google’s 22.10 and items almost returned to its proper place. 
Why “almost”? With a simple reason, only one of the items retained their position (top1) returns the rest went to plus or items were higher than for the entire event. 
I will not hide that I expected a succession here, please, what a surprise. 

In summary, there disappearance home after 8 days, back after 6, with one small “but”. I suspect that the disappearance of the domain yet acted 2 days after the date of the extension, as in the case which describe below. 

Asking me this convergence of 6 days for departure and 6 days in which to return. I add that in case of problems with the server operating the domain, does not see such action. I had a one-off for 14 days and permanent positions in their place. 

I would like to even describe two situations in this entry, the first to forgiveness of the domain, by extension, not delete from index after 301 domain to another. 

I had two strange domain such that when I bought were banned, my request for reconsideration does not result in the beginning, but returned to the index, after more than 6 months after purchase, you have thought that none of them will not. 
My joy was premature, as it turned out, despite the transfer of power at the appropriate services in these domains, unfortunately indeksowały to the maximum level of around 20 sub. Have not done anything, and believe me, that at one point was really a lot of links to these domains, spełzały my efforts to nothing. 
Organic movement on these pages do not exist, no indexing them so I decided not to. 

The “work” even for two days after the date on which it was extended. In the meantime, you can still be normally fall on them. 
These two days is probably the standard, although I am not sure how anyone has a better experience than I do, I will be grateful for the information confirming or negative. 

Turning to this case. 
Domeny disappeared from Google on the same day, after 16 days from the date on which ceased to operate. Writing domain I mean the total delete from index them with underpages or site = 0 

Msn happened the next day, after I ceased to operate, has increased the site of one of them about 10 times. However, after 12 days, so if they saw their error, reduced the number of its sub-index now non-existent domains to a dozen pieces. Today, despite the fact that it took a few months still visible a subpage for both domains. 

For Yahoo, it really does not count unless the power calculation. From the date when they disappeared into the domain site for them today rose about 6 times. To funny was a week to see more and more every day cyferki for non-existent after all domains. 
Wonders to me a bit and I presume that it was a normal cycle of parsing the data in this search engine, for example, which reflected badly on the image of the BL-counting in this search engine … 

Another issue to 301 existing domain / subdomain to another domain. 
One of my clients has decided to change the domain. At the beginning of September has been done 301 all the old to the new sub-sub and the Main Page. 
After 3 days after making 301 for the new domain began to appear in the index pages of Google and Yahoo. Of course, Yahoo now several thousand subpages, hundreds of Google, MSN responded two weeks later. 
Until now, the new domain is not received as many as subpages indexed old, but the movement is better than it was. With this “old” still exists in the index of all three search engines. 
Google is about 100 sub, MSN and Yahoo about a thousand as Yahoo has more than 75 thousand (interesting: /) 

Also here yet, as he was positioned to service a large number of items of which only about 10% on home page, the rest on the sub. 

During the transmission of power from the old to the new domain, I noticed in Google interesting phenomenon. 
I had the impression as if this search engine at all costs wanted to maintain positions in some phrases in this domain, while placing a new domain is often higher than the old. 
In the first month, when closely to this track I have seen situations where the new domain is to say 2 spot on the phrase and old at the 5th Interestingly, however, was that the old items were determined for more and more sub. As I wrote, as if this search engine has tried at all costs to maintain the old domain, changing every time they placed in the sub-index for the phrase. 
I had already been in contact with such a mechanism in the event of temporary filters to sub when it occupied a different position subpage but not on this scale. 

The second case is one of my subdomain of facilities. Unfortunately, she got this famous filter at the end of July which diminishes the position for all items. I had already bought some time and indexed domain, which wanted to move the service in some time but no more. Filter accelerated only my actions. 
301 was done in the second half of August. After 3 days I noticed an increase in traffic and start a new sub-domain in the index and the filter is not moved, which shall rejoice. 
Initially subdomain was nicely and gradually removed from the Google index. Nov. 7 was only 8 subpages. Day later, however, Google probably reintroduced the old index, he was the sub-1.5 thousand. 
On this day, Google is a 1050 sub-82 in the MSN and Yahoo … 17 thousand. 
I must admit now, that happened in this case I wanted to make this subdomain as quickly disappeared from the index. 

To sum up, if you forget to extend the domain, you do not have to worry so much. You have a few days for payment and the items should be the same. 
If you want to buy an unused domain with index pages into Google, you can have a problem. If your Yahoo TARGET is you can not hurry. 
At 301 he delete from index redirected domain may take months, so if you’re doing it to make something to hide / delete it better unless delete from index first sub in Google Sitemaps and then take forward.

Age of domain – and my seo observations

At a time seo “specialists”, mostly of beginners, ask me questions about the age of domains and facilities. 

Subject is not easy and you can discuss about it for hours, has been created in August, however, as briefly as I write this I see. 

Grading century dealt with the three points of view: 

- The age of the domain at the start of SEO 

- By the time SEO

- The age of facilities. 

Unfortunately this description is not, in my opinion, simply because many factors have an impact on each other at the same age, for example, the domain is combined with time seo. 

Please also keep in mind that these are my personal observations and your thoughts may vary. You may also be absolutely disagree with that:). 

1. Age of domain at the start of SEO. 
My basic premise is to take into account the time / age from time to crawl through a search engine does not register the domain. Domain is not indexed but not take any time from power. Although this is probably rarely happens, the annual domain, which is not in the index as a new treat. I assume that anyone who deals with the seo positioning, indexing the new domain will take up to 2 weeks. The “normal” can be found in the index for a maximum period of three months. We always somewhere to add this link. 

a) 0-3 months 
The domain is the search engine, but as with anything new, the search engine takes it in a certain degree nieśmiałości. Starting Search Engine Optimization for the loss is given, in my view, quite a big risk. Of course, it is not impossible, very often in this century phrase wskakują where they should be. But most work here mechanism FSB, or just a simple phrase is the text from the pages coincides nicely with the theme Search Engine Optimization phrase. 

Threats – easy to fall into any type of filter defeat item, often quite substantial variations in the position and possible temporary or permanent disappearance of the search engine. 

Personally, with such domains to be handled gently, a link here and some there, not too much. Better less than more. 

b) 3-6 months 
Search engines, like something is not stopped on the way, are starting to see already the site. are already visible effects of “natural outcome” or search begins calmly appreciate sub, which certainly shows in the statistics. If you start at this time uk seo, przyjrzałbym exactly what link is no longer the domain, and why the parties. What anchory its lead and is in line with what you want to do. I will check the degree of indexation, while the easiest to catch all the nuances of navigation and optimization. If the domain leads to few links to zacząłbym gradually strengthen, not forgetting the subpages. Seo started is easier now than at the beginning, FSB works even better and the results obtained by this instrument is much easier to maintain. 

Risks – then we can easily fall into the type of filter defeat any position or a persistent position. Starting Search Engine Optimization can break the natural results. 
Personally, quietly starting seo at the start of a weaker link and a large quantity anchorów. From time to time I try to add a link, which has the power as is done with his head to good works, but the effect is not in stock. 

c) 6-12 months
Here, the same as above, the party is in search engines, bots should already have “przetarte routes” and visit it as often. During this time, even the party of which one often does not work is no longer cool natural links. Of course, everything depends on the subject and destination. Search engines already “know” this site if no one with her many kombinował not to have received a credit of trust. Some phrases are stable in topach through natural mechanisms Search Engines. The Party should now be linked to the subjects page. 

Risks – can fall in any type of filter position or a defeat sustained the position. Page, however, is on more healthy on filters for phrases that appear on the page Search Engine Optimizationing / subpage example in the title. You can also go to a page where someone tested something (Search Engine Optimization) or it has, to one anchorem to this latter, which is to be positioned. If you do not have it now somewhere in the results “at the top” is a phrase, or require more work or we have a filter. 

Personally i will start Search Engine Optimization from a few strong links with thematic pages and quietly doing their job. Often these first links already allow land nicely on upragnionych positions and you are still only slightly enhanced. I will check links course that leads to a page, and optimizing scripts. 

d) 1-3 years 
The page is already familiar search engines. In current times, unless already hard to find a page that the year would not have dozens of these links, no, unless the party to a small firemki done so only after “that falls”. Probably has already been added to the catalogs of web portals and appears there for searches, which often is treated for example by Google as normal link. Party, if it has more than 100szt sub. should no longer generate a natural movement, but there is little natural results are stable, if you can write about the stability of the strange behavior during the search engines. 

Risks – then we can fall in any type of filter position or a defeat sustained the position. In this century, the need to have already earned or simply bad luck. Of course, if the page is full phrase, which begins seo and there is no top1000 it to have to take seriously ago. 

I will start seo as before, from the strong links with thematic pages and pages saturation phrase, if not already done so. In this century, almost immediately, you can do to beat the results. If the domain name or url contains a phrase or a similar theme, it can do without much effort. 

e) above 3 years 
What you can write, if not lead to a domain to provide links only to the owner or storna do not deserve it. Now it’s time for rebuilding and to comply with meaningful content  site is long established. Many items should already be naturally stable and at the top of the list in the search engine. Trust search engines to be significant, probably be surprised that none of the old party has not yet been worked 

Risks – then we can fall in any type of filter position or a defeat sustained the position. You have to believe in spite of everything, especially in the phrase is not related. On the filters, as before, you can earn. 

Personally, I like this domain, many phrases in a fairly quick time at designated landing spots. If the phrase is consistent with that on the page rank is not even the most difficult phrases are easy, light and fun. 

2. Time SEO
a) 0-6 months 
We start Search Engine Optimization - no matter how long the domain has been Indexing can happen all. The first few months is the time to effectively show the browser that the page is worth it to show the first positions. Bad seo at the beginning of the most frequently crossed the good results in the future, or simply will need to be well reperated. 

During this period, depending on the difficulty items, quantity of results on the phrase, optimize pages and competition can do a lot or very little I personally do not aggressively seo how many times I said, will slow windowanie results than sudden jumps. The first six months, however, it can serve to be the top on most items. If just a position to raise probably will be easy to achieve the good result. 

b) 6-12 months 
Page certainly already have a phrase in the top, maybe even on the first position.  phrase is no longer produced. If seo a phrase, your seo its variety, plural, will develop additional phrase + word / words to this should not cause major problems. Of course Search Engine Optimization even years can be found to the situation that we have a heading in the other ten, but this can only be really difficult in the case of large items from the competition in SERP. 
If at the end of the year, seo the phrase is not even in your neighborhood TOP10 to better address something else and leave the Search Engine Optimization of someone who is in the know. 

c) over 1 year 
Hmm, what to write here, Search Engine Optimization words on which you are working one year must be in the TOP10. In UK, phrases that hard to make top 10 almost did not exist. You probably could count them on the fingers of both hands. 

To say more words from the senior year should already be in close lead. 

Of course, temporary decreases are considered the most viable return but should not offer any hard and fall is usually the result of turbulence above-mentioned search engines. 

During this time, you can already see the phenomenon, which I call “etatowe TOP1. Looking at the top10 domain in the first place stands as the rest of the zaklęta rotates. in a subsequent entries will try to describe my observation of the phrase “on time” 

3. Age of facilities 
a) 0-12 months 
As you can see the time is quite big, but I do not see much sense to share more. Of course, there are differences between the back-end, which is 2 months and 11, often at the level of indexation. However, in power, there can be different. In addition to the age’s background is important in a number of factors, such as number and age of links to the page. In the first year it all fixed, the parties do take effect Thematic other power-related links. It is time to calm the search, where, and what link. The first year is the time to good Search Engine Optimization page back to a phrase, it is best to be associated with the phrases, Search Engine Optimization page. During this time, you may catch a promising sub and / or create sub-topics. 
A separate issue is the domain, which have already been used. These domain, if you buy well become pretty good power in the first year, assuming if he does not buy filtr site or ban domain. But it is already another thread on the alert 

b) over 1 year 
Such parties in the hinterland are performing quite well. If you are still linked to even better than good. I recommend such parties to consider and capture those with high power would not filtr the case of some items. These domains are already cope with their value and appreciate them, in good hands, can determine the “winning”. 

And it would be enough .. 

The text alternating use domain / website, it is a deliberate action. 

Yes, unfortunately, not short-out, however, is still not enough.

Test – indexing without links

On the occasion of several projects I decided to check gossip, of which I read some years ago on a few pages. 

The case concerned a self-indexing domain on Google, without assistance in the form of links. 
As we know, Google’s algorithm to see a page, in theory, it needs some encouragement in the form of links. 

Is that for sure? 

About three months ago to put a number of domain servers. Do not write exactly how many there were, however, more than a hundred. 

I stated that this amount is a good sample for testing or left fallow domain without linking show in search indexes. 

Some months ago I wanted to already write that story about the pages that search engines wyszperały without any prompt, you can put between a fairy tale. A month ago the entire pool of test domains Google crawled only one domain. After the initial surprise, it became clear that Yahoo shows a link to this page. 

The entry on the blog was not for various reasons, then the domain is not linked as the work of the parties to be completed: /. Slowly przymierzałem to begin a process of indexing these domains by slightly postarzyć them before hand, will be launched. 

Today, while browsing the logs on the servers (yes, yes robie to gradually) I noticed quite a large Google bot activity in these domains. A bit is the fact zdziwiłem because so far in the logs I saw a mostly unknown bots and whois.sc or SurveyBot. 

Googlebot invasion, because it can be described as looking in the logs, started to these domain 19.06 and lasts until today. 

I decided to check the entry to the emergence of these domains in the search engine. The tool, which I use my site automatically checks for the interest of all search engines plus a few other things 

What was my surprise when it appeared that more than 55% of these domains have been indexed! 

Yahoo and MSN are not the footsteps of Google went further and will not do anything with my test 

Interesting is that the domain is visible in the index (site:) without the www. and some have been double or crawled from the web and without the Subdomain. 

Each of the search engines further alleges that these domains do not carry out any links. Even if assuming that to say 10%, however, links to 45% performance on the day is Stunning. Domain names are so unique that the risk of linking with a finger “(bdfdfgdfg.com) or buy a domain already in use in this case was minimal. 

In fact, I have no idea why Google crawled this domain. I thought that it may be whois.sc wine, which the parties bot attacks my domain quite intensively. However, on this page is not found active links. If you are not here may aboutus.org random but 10 was not the domain of the article. It is possible that the cooperation with Google GoDaddy.com is the reason, but I did not want to create new theories. 

Unfortunately, I do not have an explanation – why? Not so, however, was in my test. 

Today I know that left the domain, which is open to any server can be indexed. On the one hand good, at least they forgot to age slowly. 

The other side of the coin are the domain of all types of panels or devices. Many people buy the domain, set it to say, video recorder, because it easier to remember and pass someone, where it has come to do something. 

The idea is that if you do not want to have your domain with Google to resolve the matter only deny.

The physical location of the server and cross-links

On official Google blog for webmasters appeared statement, clarifying certain mechanisms to be taken into account when positioning the parties. 

“Does location of server matter? I use a. Com domain but my content is for customers in the UK. 
In our understanding of web content, Google considers both the IP address and the top-level domain (eg. Com,. Co.uk). Because we attempt to serve geographically relevant content, we factor domains that have a regional significance. For example, “. Co.uk” domains are likely very relevant for user queries originating from the UK. In the absence of a significant top-level domain, we often use the web server’s IP address as an added hint in our understanding of content. “ 

      As you can see it confirmed what we wrote a long time. The physical location of the server is important in determining the position. Wonders just use me as an example co.uk, and thus search for Great Britain. It is at the best example can be seen, however, do only some countries have it so “colossal” value? 

      An interesting is this passage: 
“I have many different sites. Can I cross-link between them?
Before you begin cross-linking sites, consider the user’s perspective and whether the crosslinks provide value. If the sites are related in business – eg, an auto manual site linking to an auto parts retail site, then it could make sense – the links are organic and useful. Cross-linking between dozens or hundreds of sites, however, probably does not provide value, and I would not recommend it. “ 

      Cross-linking is a link between the same parties on the basis of 
A-> B, B-> A, that is, on one side is a link to the other, which is the link that says “return”. 

      How we see the statement is written in the context of the usefulness of such a mechanism for the user and not the mechanisms under way in the search engine. 
It wonders me that this has been negated in the event of such a link between a party unrelated topic. If someone has a few pages and several pages of the same topics, it is no longer meaningful. 

      With the observation of many people with several years showed that the positioning of pages is not a good mechanism, do any changes occurred that have not yet been noticed by seo staff? 

      In this way, on my list “for testing” appeared on the next point.

SWL – where are my links ?

To write this entry as it forced me to the owners of a link, arguing that the “to pick on”: / 

    I decided to check on exactly how many pages, which appear like my “positioning” links in the system of fixed exchange links, to “empty” taking place only punkty.Jak it is important that the system effectively wyłapywał any fraud unless you do not need anyone to translate. 

      I checked three systems, which have an active account, these are two Polish systems LiveLink, LinkMe and the most popular in the world system of permanent links – Link Vault.

      At this point, mention that I am not a supporter of the parties only by positioning systems. In my opinion they should be useful only as a supplement to what we do. As we know it is different, some are “pozycjonerzy” for which it is the only way of obtaining and links to them is primarily governed by the text, but not only. 

      Testing was done in two stages. 

First, check the script, written specially for this purpose. The script looks in the page address of the site, which is a link that should be there, do not anchor because it could obscure the result. 

The script report as “Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows NT) with timeout set to 30 seconds. 

      The second step is to check the manual page labeled as “no link”. 

  For parties that do not open or give 404, 500 or script errors contained therein, checked a copy of Google, if I did not find a copy of sub-assumed that the link is there. 

  Unfortunately, after counting all noticed that he committed a small mistake does not zapisałem the number of pages on which I was not able to determine “is / is not” but such cases were not many, bodajże at 3-5 for the Polish system and 1 for LV . 

LiveLink 

      Reviewed 264 pages, I did not find a link to the 55 units at a 20.83% – not enough is not it? 

For most of the system simply was not the links, I saw a few pages from a 301 redirect from the sub, which was listed on the homepage. Several sub did not exist, despite the fact that the party work and its structure has not changed, most were catalogs, where entry has been removed, so subpage disappeared. 

But, interestingly, I found a flower, which is parked domain, with a copy indicating that this state has been going on since the week.

I think that this system powianiem spider to catch a long time already. 

      Do not hide that, for the first system of checking the action moved almost two months ago, unfortunately, despite the declaration by the detectives’ side have not been removed, and a relatively large amount of re-wyłapana was not as Issuing links. 

LinkMe 

      Reviewed 210 pages, I did not find a link to the 28 pieces which gives 13.33%. As for the% is already a better situation, spider system is a little more effective than the LiveLink. 

     Here, in the same way most simply was not “my” link, were non-existent and the sub-301 Was not without a “flower”, which turned out to be zbanowana domain on Google.

Seo through ban domains … hmmS. 

   Unfortunately I’m not able to determine when it was, so there is a chance that np days sooner and bot that system did not have time to throw away. 

Link Vault 

      Reviewed 226 pages, I did not find a link to the 12 pieces which gives 5.31%. 

      As you can see in this system loses the least points to the “empty links”, the positioning of the system will be more effective. 

      The fact is that I thought that this system will be less of these pages. 

I did not find here any interesting links on the case and just did not happen. 

      While reviewing these systems, I established that the upper limit of tolerance, missing links, to 3-5%. I bet too that I am not an isolated case, because I think that looking at the system as a whole, the percentages, not much has changed. 

Unfortunately, none of the systems in this limit does not fit. 

LV was a close as you can see, the system is control from the best developed. 

     Percentages are unfortunately Polish systems for high-owners Administrators gentlemen! 

13.33% is already appalling, but 20.83% is already a nightmare. 

For every 1,000 links 133szt. or 208szt. simply does not exist. The worst is that these quantities, often allow for the positioning of the next phrase, or the strengthening of the back-end. 

      One, a plus for the LiveLink is to export links to the pdf. Really makes it easy to automatically check for it in LinkMe, I have the impression that, after dividing the list 10pcs. on the sub is deliberate action to impede verification. Copy these links took me several minutes if I wanted to check in 2000 to probably zniechęciłbym quickly. Maybe I would have done to time but not cyclical. 

Unfortunately, LV is not better than LinkMe in this respect, the fact that I’ve created a list faster, but only through the Firefox extension “Web Developer” + cleaning with unnecessary things. 

     At the end I would like to add that it does not assess the effectiveness of these systems in terms of positioning. The fact is, however, that if the number of pages that do not emit links were lower to those systems would be even more effective. 

      I encourage everyone to independently verify their mailing lists, and to report this to the systems, will certainly contribute to the increase in the value of your points.